Don’t Get Fooled Again
By Rob Safuto on Nov 23, 2008 in Social Media | Tags: blogger and podcaster , Marketing , monetization , Podcasting
A couple of weeks ago a good friend of mine asked me the question, “What’s going on with podcasting?” My reply was something like, “How the hell do I know?” He was a bit surprised because he knows that I’ve been deep into the podcasting game since early in 2005. Truth be told I still keep an eye on things in the space but i’m not the oracle of podcasting information that I once was.
I decided that my friend’s question was worth answering but didn’t give myself any time frame for looking around and posting. I’ve got lots of other stuff going on including helping my wife out with our second child and my first semester of graduate school which has taken more of my leisure time than I expected it would. In any case I was doing some research and saw a tidbit today that really got my Irish (well Italian actually) up.
I cruised over to the Blogger and Podcaster Magazine website to see if they were still alive and I was greeted with the following banner image.
My first reaction was something akin to, “Oh jeez, what’s this?” It’s unfortunate that I become accustomed to dealing with snake oil salesmen when it comes to new media but sorry there are a lot of them out there. Here I see a graphic that in a couple of thousand pixels promises full-time income, health care and company stock. It looked fishy to me so I delved in further to see what the deal is.
Blogger & Podcaster have teamed up with three (or maybe two) other social media type websites to offer what I mentioned above plus promotion plus “discounts and freebies.” I look at the companies involved and not one strikes me as very successful at what they are doing. Podcast Pickle has been around a long time as a directory and forum but has not seen any appreciable growth. Fuel My Blog pitches itself as a “spam free community exclusive to bloggers.” I had never heard of it myself by their blog has 333 Feedburner readers so who am I to judge?
Then there’s Social Rank. I hope you have better luck with their site link than I did because it went to an error page for me. I tried the Social Rank blog too. No luck there either since the blog has been deleted. That could be a problem since the Social Rank “search engine” is supposed to help serve up promotion “to millions each month.” That’s not the worst of it. Judging by the Google Trends numbers at left this band of merry bloggers and podcasters can’t even draw tens of thousands of people each month to their sites. Perhaps they should ask Podcast Alley, which has more traffic than the other sites but is not part of the team.
The thing begins to smell more fishy that the old Fulton Fish Market at 4AM. I decided to Google the B&P Media Network’s “BPMN’s First Member - Self-Made Billionaire Bill Bartmann.” According to Fortune Magazine Bill Bartmann was a billionaire on paper, which means he wasn’t a billionaire. He’s really a guy who’s a good salesman that seems to excel at building paper assets and then losing them all. Now he’s a motivational speaker type looking to piece a career back together.
Evidently Bill is going to lead the new media revolution and help all of us little bloggers and podcasters rise up to earn a six-figure income, have health care and even a shot at being a billionaire ourselves. In fact BPMN’s pitch for their venture promises to solve all of the problems for the little guys and gals in new media. They’ll help you build an audience. They’ll help you make money. They’ll help you get health care. They’ll get you equity. They’ll get you access to mainstream media. The list of promises goes on and on.
I’ve said it to people in the podcasting and new media space many times before and I’ll say it again. Stay the heck away from things like this. Joining “networks” does nothing for you. The multi-level-marketing hucksters are simply making another run at the new media space. They want you to go to work for them, bring them your audience and help their failing websites and publications to survive. They’re not going to get you health care, they’re not going to make you rich via stock in a company worth nothing. You can do those things for yourself. Whether or not you can do it with blogging and podcasting remains to be seen.
What these folks will do is distract you from building something by yourself and for yourself. I’ve seen all the promises before. Remember Quit Your Day Job from Podshow? Life and business does not work the way these people say it does. You work hard for yourself. You take the time to learn. You try to do better. It’s hard. Nothing’s guaranteed. These people trying to sell “success” as a secret system with a code just waiting to be cracked are full of it. And that’s that.






Bob Goyetche | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
Hey Rob - I interviewed Larry Genkin (BPMN founder) for Canadian Podcast Buffet about this a few weeks back,
It’s MLM, where *surprise!* the real money (apparently) is made by bringing people under you. I still haven’t really heard where the ad money is coming from, seems like it’s not all ironed out yet….
interview is here : http://www.canadianpodcastbuffet.ca/?p=240
cheers
Rob Safuto | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
Of course it is Bob. It’s really nothing new so hopefully people see the program for what it is.
Larry Genkin, CEO, Blogger & Podcaster Media Network | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
Rob, I appreciate your healthy sense of skepticism. While a number of your points are accurate, your conclusion is off base and is unfairly colored by other ventures and entities that preceded us. I do however take it as a fair point that I personally should tone down the way I explain the benefits we promise in our marketing, as it comes across as hype and detracts from our credibility and good things we’re doing. One main thing that you missed in your analysis is that each of the companies merging to create The Blogger & Podcaster Media Network has a significant and growing community of users and underlying proprietary technology. Up until now each has been underfunded and as a result performed nowhere near it’s capabilities. When we combine these core assets with our expanded funding, we will be in a position to really do some good for the little guys, not the A-listers who get all the attention, for a change. And, what’s wrong with giving (without any cost whatsoever) equity to members? If we do well, why shouldn’t they share? What’s wrong with putting together a group healthcare plan, so people can have the flexibility to leave their day jobs and still take care of their families health needs? What’s wrong with giving 70% of the net revenues back to the members? What’s wrong with offering members promotion in mainstream media?
Before shooting from the hip and concluding that we’re “hucksters” and telling folks to “not get fooled again”, I’d ask you to take 5 minutes and read the cover story I wrote for this months issue of Blogger & Podcaster Magazine — http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.net/BPMN_Article.htm. This shares my view point on what’s holding the industry back and what needs to happen for us to move from a collection of hobbyists to a profession. If you disagree with where I’m coming from, then we just have a fundamental difference on how we see the industry. I’ve been working on creating The Blogger & Podcaster Media Network for over a year and the four companies merging (and there shareholders) are betting their futures on it. If you’re willing to dig a little deeper, instead of just shooting from the hip without all the facts, I’d be willing to sit down and share all of our plans as openly and forthrightly as I can. Then let’s see if you feel the same way. I can be reached at larry at bloggerandpodcaster dot net.
Rob Safuto | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
Dear Larry,
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Rob
Rob Safuto | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
On another note it looks like Social Rank is back online. It’s a blog directory. Zzzzzzzzzz.
Larry Genkin, CEO, Blogger & Podcaster Media Network | Nov 26, 2008 | Reply
Rob,
SocialRank is not a blog directory at all, it’s a blog search engine, that retrieves the most popular blog posts related to specific keywords or queries. It core technology is similar to Sphere (acquired by AOL - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/14/aol-buys-sphere-content-engine/). We will be using it to create an Associated Press out of blog content, to drive readers to our members sites.
Larry
Rob Safuto | Nov 28, 2008 | Reply
Social Rank just bought a bunch of urls and is using WordPress and a free tool called SimplePie (I’m using it on this site) to aggregate posts from RSS feeds. Nothing new there. Definitely nothing exciting technically.
And since you’re partnering with them Larry you might want to send them an email to let them know that all of their pages appear to be BROKEN! Most of their sites “powered by SocialRank” currently display the following error on the home page.
SimplePieWP: Feed Broken: Feed init returned false.
Feed is empty.
SimplePie error message: cURL error 52: Empty reply from server
I’d have someone look into that right away.